tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post6697824030512619409..comments2023-04-22T09:22:21.628-07:00Comments on the dorbel daily: Bots and Backgamesdorbelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13383981659478145403noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post-55323496585136194542010-10-24T00:22:57.688-07:002010-10-24T00:22:57.688-07:00Looking at the first position again, I still think...Looking at the first position again, I still think that it is a pass at that match score (4-away, 5-away), but probably a take for money, so the offer to pay a point to white to take a money cube is closed to newcomers. Having offered it to PL, I will stick to that if he wants it.dorbelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13383981659478145403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post-43021322201793397662010-10-23T14:56:32.848-07:002010-10-23T14:56:32.848-07:00Thanks for these comments. I think that it is perf...Thanks for these comments. I think that it is perfectly possible that Neil Kazaross can play backgames from either side better than a bot. He is after all clearly one of the very best players in the world. How rollouts performed by bots can show that bots can't play backgames is beyond my understanding though.<br />Thank you PL. As I think that this position is a pass I will as I said give you a point to play White holding a 2 cube. I think that Gamesgrid has their prop function up and working, so I will check that out. I already have an account there, so you should open one yourself if you want to play. They don't as yet have cash accounts, so I suggest that we both send a suitable sum by PayPal to a third party who can be the stake holder. If we are going to play for 5 euros a point, then 250 euros would be a good sum I think. If one player goes 50 points down, the series is over. If neither player goes that far behind we could settle after 50 games, or if mutually agreed, play a second set of 50. How does that sound?<br />We could either play this as a money game, the simplest option, or we could play it at the match score in the article, which is Red leading 5-4 to 9. In that case, rather than play the match to a conclusion, we could just settle according to an agreed MET at the end of each game.dorbelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13383981659478145403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post-60165349395254563612010-10-23T13:16:51.705-07:002010-10-23T13:16:51.705-07:00Hi,
PL here. I take your challenge and would happ...Hi,<br /><br />PL here. I take your challenge and would happily play White against Snowie with cube on 2. So how'd be the steps to take the bet?<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />PLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post-30296190166612822912010-10-22T07:07:22.908-07:002010-10-22T07:07:22.908-07:00Neil Kazaross has, as he said at bgonline, backgam...Neil Kazaross has, as he said at bgonline, backgame RO's in stock , but he could not share same by now, because they will be part of a series of articles he is writing. I think the question can be easily settled, if you ask him there. And my personel opinion is, that Neil is not working with the bots just how to show, they can't play backgames.higonefivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886491474303385529.post-46397944047735872552010-10-13T12:25:08.595-07:002010-10-13T12:25:08.595-07:00Well, the bots certainly understand backgames bett...Well, the bots certainly understand backgames better than I do. I would surmize that they play them better than almost all humans, and that's good enough for me to take their play as "correct".ah_clemnoreply@blogger.com